I have thought about it and it makes a little more sense to me now. I'm just not used to hearing it explained in those terms or from that particular
viewpoint. It's one of those areas that I have always just gave approval to - the OT saints who had faith being preserrved - but never really have studied
or thought about it in depth. I believed it but after thinking it through, if they gained entrance to the kingdom of heaven it would have to of been through a
new birth or something "equivalent" to it because all have to go by the same route of faith to receive it. Does this have anything to do with Christ
going and preaching to the spirits in prison ( I Peter 3:19)? I've always thought of spirits in prison as perhaps being OT people who died in faith who
were preserved and waiting for the Savior. But like I said, I never have added any fine detail to my belief about that like I am having to do now.
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"This same Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven." (Acts 1:11) But where? A return to Amsterdam? Santiago, Chile? Kansas City, Missouri?
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Posts: 217 03/19/08 16:30:05 |
docs1 wrote: Doc,
Once again, this comes straight from dispensational teaching which has become common-place understanding within much of today's Christianity. No, the 'spirits in prison' do not refer to OT believers waiting for their release. In keeping it simple, commentator Alan Stibbs said, "Peter is not saying that Christ preached the gospel. Rather He announced His triumph over evil, which for the evil spirits bad news" These types of examples of popular misuderstanding is why many in the Reformed camp display a thorough disdain attitude toward dispensational teachings.
John Chaney
"having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith . . ." (Colossians 2:7 NASB) |
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Well, red faced here John. I haven't even thought about that verse for a very long while. It's always been sort of a floater to me that I just
acknowledged was sort of mysterious. What I offered just came off the top of my mind but if it came it must have been there. If it helps, I just read where
Luther said he still wasn't sure what the apostle meant in this verse. Not that I'm trying to save face.
 Nah. Much to my chagrin, I realize I've never studied the verse in any depth
but there's no time like the present.
I looked at the Highway Forum again today. Pretty nice. 
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