What are the differences between post-mill reconstructionalist and post-mill 'in general'? I do not know really know the proper name of the 'in
general' crowd? Engelsma seems to argue in his articles first against reconstructionists, then broadens it out. Are the post mill differences between the
two just a matter of tweaking or are they major? In addition, does preterism fall under another category of post-mill or would preterists be considered in the
'in general' camp?
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Posts: 200 02/21/08 10:13:32 |
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Posts: 155 02/21/08 18:00:18 Administrator |
Revivalist Postmillennialism: the millennium represents an unknown period of time marked by gradual Christian revival and widespread successful evangelism,
followed by Christ's return.
Reconstructionist Postmillennialism: the Church increases its influence through successful evangelism and expansion, finally establishing a theocratic kingdom of 1000 years duration (literal or figurative) followed by the return of Christ. Preterism: the book of Revelation was prophecy at the time, but all or most of it has already been fulfilled in the very early days of the Church; esp. centering around the destruction of the Temple and the Jewish nation in 70 A.D. Differences: Full Preterism: All of Christian prophecy was fulfilled in the first century, including the return of Christ and the resurrection of believers. The resurrection is interpreted to mean receiving a spiritual body after death, with no promise of a physical resurrection for any besides Christ. Partial Preterism: Most of prophecy was fulfilled in the first century, except Christ's return then was as a judge of Israel, but not his final literal coming. He is still to return and literally raise the believing dead.
In Christ,
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Posts: 469 02/22/08 06:37:17 |
Good summary, although your "Revivalist Postmillennialism" category should probably be characterized as a more sudden Christian revival -- something
akin to a worldwide Great Awakening. It's also marked by the mass conversion of the Jews. This was the view of many Puritans -- see Iain Murray's
"Puritan Hope."
The Preterist positions tend to overlap the various Postmil positions -- think of a Venn diagram with intersecting circles. Some (many) Recon Postmils are partial preterists; others are not. Ditto with Revivalist Postmils. I am not aware of any in either of the Postmil camps who holds to Full Preterism, since that position has been roundly condemned as heretical by leaders in both camps.
Rod Kirby, Ph.D.
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Posts: 424 02/23/08 14:46:20 |
I don't think one can identify as full preterist and postmil, because postmil implies there are yet significant events to be fulfilled. Full preterism
essentially denies that, saying that from now on, thing will just continue as they are on the large scale, with only "personal eschatology" having
any future fulfillment. That is, the resurrection is as resurrected as it's gonna get, except for individuals. Jesus has returned, only individuals are
left to experience it individually.
So I think you're right, you can't place full preterism within postmillennialism at all. There is a sense in which the terms partial preterism and full preterism are themselves misleading, because they imply that there are significant commonalities. But how can you say that a broadly orthodox variant of eschatology has significant commonalities with rank anti-creedal heresy? Full preterism is a bizarre heresy, not an eschatological variant.
~Jane~
Suddenly I was abuzz with ideas. What about issuing stickers printed with the words, "This apostrophe is not necessary"? What about telling people to shin up ladders at dead of night with an apostrophe-shaped stencil and a tin of paint? Why did the Apostrophe Protection Society not have a militant wing? Could I start one? Where do you get balaclavas? -- Eats, Shoots and Leaves |
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